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		<title>By: Scott Manesis</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbetter.com/copywriting/did-internet-marketers-screw-up-network-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-2438</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Manesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 19:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason,

Has internet marketing ruined it for network marketers? 

I personally think that we are so blessed to live in todays modern age.

I mean 20 years ago how easy was it to have access to so many people with the click of a button?

With the old adage of some will, some won&#039;t, so what. It is easy to see that the internet has made it much easier for people to access other people and also great training that they would normally not have had access to without the internet.

So some will, some won&#039;t...so what?

Taking emotional attachment out of the equation we can understand that it is purely a numbers game.

Form relationships with more people and you will have more distributors.

Can anyone name another way to access more people than the internet?

Oh sure there is more competition, so what? What leader is afraid of competition? That is exactly what drives me to be better every single day. Without knowing there was competition I don;t know what would motivate me. I like to win, but I don&#039;t get any  satisfaction from winning too easily. 

Just as I am sure that an NBA player doesn&#039;t get much satisfaction over whipping up on a bunch of elementary school players.

Just me 2 cents

~Scott Manesis</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason,</p>
<p>Has internet marketing ruined it for network marketers? </p>
<p>I personally think that we are so blessed to live in todays modern age.</p>
<p>I mean 20 years ago how easy was it to have access to so many people with the click of a button?</p>
<p>With the old adage of some will, some won&#8217;t, so what. It is easy to see that the internet has made it much easier for people to access other people and also great training that they would normally not have had access to without the internet.</p>
<p>So some will, some won&#8217;t&#8230;so what?</p>
<p>Taking emotional attachment out of the equation we can understand that it is purely a numbers game.</p>
<p>Form relationships with more people and you will have more distributors.</p>
<p>Can anyone name another way to access more people than the internet?</p>
<p>Oh sure there is more competition, so what? What leader is afraid of competition? That is exactly what drives me to be better every single day. Without knowing there was competition I don;t know what would motivate me. I like to win, but I don&#8217;t get any  satisfaction from winning too easily. </p>
<p>Just as I am sure that an NBA player doesn&#8217;t get much satisfaction over whipping up on a bunch of elementary school players.</p>
<p>Just me 2 cents</p>
<p>~Scott Manesis</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 20:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gregory,

Hah, so true, so true.

I&#039;m a big fan of MD&#039;s duel approach. I think everybody
should be willing to embrace every form of marketing
instead of pointing the fingers and whining about it all.

Cheers,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gregory,</p>
<p>Hah, so true, so true.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a big fan of MD&#8217;s duel approach. I think everybody<br />
should be willing to embrace every form of marketing<br />
instead of pointing the fingers and whining about it all.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
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		<title>By: Gregory Elfrink</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbetter.com/copywriting/did-internet-marketers-screw-up-network-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-2370</link>
		<dc:creator>Gregory Elfrink</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Jan 2010 15:06:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo Jason...

Internet marketing has made it EASIER to recruit but HARDER to retain.

This is the thing... you cannot build a legacy income in MLM purely with the internet. There has to be offline interaction going on.

Also there needs to be more than just lead generation and sponsoring going on in your downline.

I&#039;ve come to realize you really want to breed a strong CULTURE in your organization as well.

It is from the culture that the downline will keep moving and growing once you stop and relax in the sun.

In my eyes the internet has helped WAY more than hurt.

I started off trying warm market. No one was interested.

When I generated 114 leads in a day for 10 mins of work? Well... heh, I was no longer a NFL member.

The internet shows there is MORE to you than just pestering Uncle Tom.

But the fact is, all of those offline strategies? Warm market, cold calling, buying leads, drop cards, traditional networking etc. etc.... they ALL WORK.

Just slower.

BUT! You trade speed for quality. The people you get into your team offline will stick around a lot longer usually and often be more coachable, versus the fly-by-nighters you get all the time online.

So, as Mike Dillard is now doing, implement both offline and online.

To answer the question... that&#039;s a big N.O on internet marketing hurting our industry.

If anything it has made us go from crazy rah-rah-juice-salesman, to the limelight of professionalism.


To the top,
-Gregory
PS. I know what you mean about this guy. It infuriates me to see stuff like that, but just go to let it go. I see it all the time when  I do SEO and Scam.com pops up... talk about a bunch of whiners lol</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo Jason&#8230;</p>
<p>Internet marketing has made it EASIER to recruit but HARDER to retain.</p>
<p>This is the thing&#8230; you cannot build a legacy income in MLM purely with the internet. There has to be offline interaction going on.</p>
<p>Also there needs to be more than just lead generation and sponsoring going on in your downline.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve come to realize you really want to breed a strong CULTURE in your organization as well.</p>
<p>It is from the culture that the downline will keep moving and growing once you stop and relax in the sun.</p>
<p>In my eyes the internet has helped WAY more than hurt.</p>
<p>I started off trying warm market. No one was interested.</p>
<p>When I generated 114 leads in a day for 10 mins of work? Well&#8230; heh, I was no longer a NFL member.</p>
<p>The internet shows there is MORE to you than just pestering Uncle Tom.</p>
<p>But the fact is, all of those offline strategies? Warm market, cold calling, buying leads, drop cards, traditional networking etc. etc&#8230;. they ALL WORK.</p>
<p>Just slower.</p>
<p>BUT! You trade speed for quality. The people you get into your team offline will stick around a lot longer usually and often be more coachable, versus the fly-by-nighters you get all the time online.</p>
<p>So, as Mike Dillard is now doing, implement both offline and online.</p>
<p>To answer the question&#8230; that&#8217;s a big N.O on internet marketing hurting our industry.</p>
<p>If anything it has made us go from crazy rah-rah-juice-salesman, to the limelight of professionalism.</p>
<p>To the top,<br />
-Gregory<br />
PS. I know what you mean about this guy. It infuriates me to see stuff like that, but just go to let it go. I see it all the time when  I do SEO and Scam.com pops up&#8230; talk about a bunch of whiners lol</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:35:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Barry,

I think that&#039;s the hardest part.

Building something and then sticking
to it after the sale. It&#039;s easy enough to
make a sale... not so easy to do the rest.

I admire your persistence. I know a lot of
people would have quit at the first objection
or excuse...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Barry,</p>
<p>I think that&#8217;s the hardest part.</p>
<p>Building something and then sticking<br />
to it after the sale. It&#8217;s easy enough to<br />
make a sale&#8230; not so easy to do the rest.</p>
<p>I admire your persistence. I know a lot of<br />
people would have quit at the first objection<br />
or excuse&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Barry White</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barry White</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Jan 2010 02:18:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jason

I&#039;ve been mucking around with old style Network Marketing since 1979 and just haven&#039;t been able to crack it. I don&#039;t blame anyone but myself because it just wasn&#039;t my scene but I do really believe in model.

Because I have been in sales for over 30 years I was told by an upline very few sales people make it because they always want to make the sale and move on because we are always selling and not marketing. 

I had just about given up because I had gone through so many NWM companies until I found Mike Dillards Magnetic Sponsoring so here I am still here and as they keep saying if you never give up you will make it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jason</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been mucking around with old style Network Marketing since 1979 and just haven&#8217;t been able to crack it. I don&#8217;t blame anyone but myself because it just wasn&#8217;t my scene but I do really believe in model.</p>
<p>Because I have been in sales for over 30 years I was told by an upline very few sales people make it because they always want to make the sale and move on because we are always selling and not marketing. </p>
<p>I had just about given up because I had gone through so many NWM companies until I found Mike Dillards Magnetic Sponsoring so here I am still here and as they keep saying if you never give up you will make it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbetter.com/copywriting/did-internet-marketers-screw-up-network-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-2080</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 18:10:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David,

Thanks for stopping in.

It wasn&#039;t too long ago that I was appalled by
the SEO practices I was seeing out there. I think
Google has done an incredible job in cleaning house.

Although, I have to admit, I&#039;ve heard horror stories 
too. I admire anyone who can keep up with the pace
of modern SEO.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,</p>
<p>Thanks for stopping in.</p>
<p>It wasn&#8217;t too long ago that I was appalled by<br />
the SEO practices I was seeing out there. I think<br />
Google has done an incredible job in cleaning house.</p>
<p>Although, I have to admit, I&#8217;ve heard horror stories<br />
too. I admire anyone who can keep up with the pace<br />
of modern SEO.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilcoxson</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbetter.com/copywriting/did-internet-marketers-screw-up-network-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-2077</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilcoxson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason, 

I try to keep in mind that Google&#039;s goal is to connect searchers with relevant content, which means that I have to define my market niche and what they are searching for, and then work to provide valuable content and solutions to them.

What Google frowns on is the way marketers manipulate the SEO formula to get ranked for keyword search terms.

What Google frowns on is Adword campaigns where the ad, capture page or sales page don&#039;t match what the searcher was looking for, which they can measure by the time spent on your site, bounce rate and click-through rate.

Thanks for standing out in the crowd!

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason, </p>
<p>I try to keep in mind that Google&#8217;s goal is to connect searchers with relevant content, which means that I have to define my market niche and what they are searching for, and then work to provide valuable content and solutions to them.</p>
<p>What Google frowns on is the way marketers manipulate the SEO formula to get ranked for keyword search terms.</p>
<p>What Google frowns on is Adword campaigns where the ad, capture page or sales page don&#8217;t match what the searcher was looking for, which they can measure by the time spent on your site, bounce rate and click-through rate.</p>
<p>Thanks for standing out in the crowd!</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 17:03:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey David,

I&#039;m curious about that too.

I always wondered what the google
experts say about us marketers...

I&#039;ve heard they frown upon SEO like it&#039;s some
sort of crime or something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey David,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m curious about that too.</p>
<p>I always wondered what the google<br />
experts say about us marketers&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard they frown upon SEO like it&#8217;s some<br />
sort of crime or something.</p>
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		<title>By: David Wilcoxson</title>
		<link>http://www.jasonbetter.com/copywriting/did-internet-marketers-screw-up-network-marketing/comment-page-1/#comment-2051</link>
		<dc:creator>David Wilcoxson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Jan 2010 15:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great discussions on article marketing / internet marketing!  It&#039;s amazing to watch the crowd of network marketers rush to a new strategy, overwhelm it with bad tactics and cause backlash.

And every time this happens, Google takes action to modify their formula, to purge the people that are clogging the system.

Many Google PPC ads and resulting sales pages are not RELEVANT to the keyword that was searched, so they get a low quality score from Google.

Social media sites are overrun with people pitching their products and business, so the sites are adjusting to purge these type of people.

Twitter is full of people who all they do is &#039;throw up&#039; quotes all day, which doesn&#039;t answer the Twitter question &quot;What&#039;s Happening?&quot; 

Articles are usually written to &#039;sell&#039; you on their company or to convert you to their mlm company or mlm marketing system; not to simply ADD VALUE to the reader.

Makes you wonder what type of discussions Google has about network marketers and Internet marketing strategies.

The great news is that network marketers need training on internet marketing, so there&#039;s a huge opportunity in providing valuable content.

Keep up the great work!

David</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great discussions on article marketing / internet marketing!  It&#8217;s amazing to watch the crowd of network marketers rush to a new strategy, overwhelm it with bad tactics and cause backlash.</p>
<p>And every time this happens, Google takes action to modify their formula, to purge the people that are clogging the system.</p>
<p>Many Google PPC ads and resulting sales pages are not RELEVANT to the keyword that was searched, so they get a low quality score from Google.</p>
<p>Social media sites are overrun with people pitching their products and business, so the sites are adjusting to purge these type of people.</p>
<p>Twitter is full of people who all they do is &#8216;throw up&#8217; quotes all day, which doesn&#8217;t answer the Twitter question &#8220;What&#8217;s Happening?&#8221; </p>
<p>Articles are usually written to &#8217;sell&#8217; you on their company or to convert you to their mlm company or mlm marketing system; not to simply ADD VALUE to the reader.</p>
<p>Makes you wonder what type of discussions Google has about network marketers and Internet marketing strategies.</p>
<p>The great news is that network marketers need training on internet marketing, so there&#8217;s a huge opportunity in providing valuable content.</p>
<p>Keep up the great work!</p>
<p>David</p>
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		<title>By: Derek Alvarez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Derek Alvarez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m eating this stuff up, Jason!

Thanks, man.

I hear you on the time thing -- if only there were 3 of me!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m eating this stuff up, Jason!</p>
<p>Thanks, man.</p>
<p>I hear you on the time thing &#8212; if only there were 3 of me!</p>
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