Nerve Center Design On A Budget
Wow. I was reading a post in the Better Networker forums and it turns out a lot of people are having trouble hiring designers to design their nerve centers or blogs. Some people are getting ripped off and others just don’t have the cash to hire a certified pro. So I thought we could break this issue down and offer a few solutions.
We’ll, talk about how to get decent design at affordable prices, and how to protect yourself from getting scammed. Which, I hate to say, is bound to happen to everyone at some point in time.
So here’s a few tips that will dramatically reduce your chances of getting ripped off and save your designer a massive headache. Which, as you’ll soon find out is one way to save a load of dough.
So let’s get started…
1) Know what you want. It saves money!
Don’t approach a designer until you have a clear idea of what you want from them. Save links to websites. Take screenshots. Write notes. The more thorough you are the better it will turn out.
Make sure you’re thorough about what you expect. Make it clear to your designer that you expect nothing less than agreed and that it’s okay if they can’t deliver as long as they let you know so nobody wastes time or money.
One great tip from Mike Dillard in the Better Networker forums (here’s the link) is that you should use www.jingproject.com to record a short video of what you’re looking for. Visit the sites you like and share that video with your designer. I think that’s an awesome tip. It will save you a lot of frustration and your designer will know what you want too.
2) Have a decent budget. It saves money!
I know a lot of people are running their business on a budget and a professional designer is way out of their league, but if you want to hire someone to design for you it is gonna to cost you some money.
From experience, I can tell you It costs a lot more to hire the wrong designer at a cheap price than it costs to hire the right designer in the first place. So you might want to consider upping your budget if it’s tight. Unless you’re the gambling type.
In fact, if all you have is a hundred bucks I would strongly advise you to buy your own blog theme or template and learn how to tweak it yourself. It’s mostly what you’re going to get from a designer at that price level anyway.
How much should you pay?
Well, here’s the real problem… there’s no set price. Designers will charge you anything from $100 to $15000 per project. It depends on what you’re looking for and where you go to get it done.
Okay, that’s all fine and dandy but how much should
I pay for a nerve center or blog design?
I would say, based on my experience that you shouldn’t have to pay over $500 to get your nerve center or blog professionally designed. But I would be wary of any designer willing to do it for less than $200. There’s something fishy there. Either they don’t know what they’re doing or they’re desperate.
Money saving tip…
Don’t go to a design agency. These places have massive overhead even in small towns so they charge through the roof. A complete waste of your marketing budget unless you’re a massive company in my opinion. I know a couple of ladies who got ripped off $750 for basically business cards because they went to a local design agency and it’s not the first horror story I’ve heard.
With that said, not all designers are crooks.
So here’s how to pick a designer that’s right for you…
3) Picking a decent designer. It saves money!
In design like any other profession there’s varying levels of skill and training. With that said, you’ll also have to understand that “web design” as a profession didn’t really exist ten years ago so there’s a lot of self-trained designers floating around.
Three Types of Designer…
Certified Designers: A lot of people don’t know this but designers are certified and trained professionals in a lot countries. Guidelines vary, but in some cases they have three years of school followed by one year of full-time work before they can even apply for certification in their field.Then they’re reviewed by a panel of professional designers who scrutinize their work. They’re granted membership based on competence and before they’re free to practice design as registered professionals.
Of course, not every designer is certified. This is often the case in newer fields like web design where technology is changing so fast even certified designers can’t keep up with the race. And even in countries with certification, there’s nothing to stop anyone with a little skill from setting up shop as a “Designer”. So it’s practically the wild west.
Desk-Top Publishers: Now standards vary. There’s “desk-top publishers” who are basically untrained graphic designers. Yes, sometimes they go through one or two years of training, and sometimes they have web design skills but many are not professionally trained at all. I wouldn’t recommend hiring a desk-top publisher for your primary design, but they often make the best full-time designers when it comes to file preparation and design on a budget.
Weekend Warriors: Last we have designers who are self-taught. No formal education at all. This doesn’t mean they can’t provide the quality of design that you need, but you do have to understand you’re taking a risk. Not all designers are created equal and you should proceed with caution.
With that said, you’re probably gonna end hiring a designer who is self trained. Most professional designers are gonna be way out of your price range. I’m not even joking here.
So where do you find a designer?
Well, one untapped resource is local community colleges. Quite often the students are skilled but haven’t had the work experience they need to charge professional rates. But be careful here because a lot of graphic designers have no idea about Wordpress or blog design. So if you’re looking for someone to design your “nerve center” then you’ll most likely need a web design student or grad.
Another place I’d highly recommend is the Better Networker Forums. But not in a conventional way. Find someone who already has a beautiful blog or nerve center up and ask them who designed it for them and if they mind telling you how much it cost. You’d be surprised by how helpful a lot of folks are.
You’ll want to be thorough…
• Read their testimonials if they have any.
• Study the sites they’ve already designed.
• You could even ask to talk to their clients.
Remember that it’s your money and time at stake. And the surest way to save money on design is to make sure you do your homework.
In my opinion, the safest way to find a great designer is to get a referral from one of their existing customers online. This is easier than it’s ever been on forums like Better Networker. All you have to do is ask your peers.
But what happens if you get ripped off?
Well, here’s how to get your money back
You have a few options…
#1 First, you should contact your designer immediately. Mention your concerns, and if they can’t resolve them then ask for your money back. Any self respecting businessman will refund your money or fix the problem.
Unless of course, you’re not living up to your side of the deal. Which sometimes happens, it’s why you should ALWAYS have a recorded agreement of some kind. Even if it’s just and e-mail or letter. It’s a document you can refer to to make sure you’re in the right… because let’s face it… in a busy business it’s easy to forget what you paid for.
#2 If you used Paypal then you could dispute the payments with them. Paypal tends to side with the customer. Which is good unless customers want to rip you off. Now, this could tarnish your reputation with Paypal so when possible you should work things out like adults.
#3 If you paid by credit card you can do a charge back by contacting your credit card company. Never ever do this unless you have no other choice. Not only are you risking their reputation but YOUR reputation as well.
#4 If you paid by post-dated check then you can put a stop-payment on it. But that’s really a last resort. A lot of people won’t accept payment by checks anyway. So you’ll probably never run into this.
But, you have to be honest with yourself too. If you asked your designer for something and then changed your mind then it’s not really their problem. If they live up to their agreement with you. Whether it’s verbal, or by e-mail then you have no right to the money you paid out. The customer isn’t always right. And sometimes it hurts to admit that we’re wrong.
I don’t know about you, but I’ve been there. And maybe you’re wondering if a clever contract could end these woes.
What about contracts?
I believe if someone is gonna rip you off then it doesn’t matter how much paper you have them sign. With that said, only work with people you like and trust. If your gut says “don’t trust them” then back out right away.
I still think you should have some sort of recorded agreement. Whether that’s an e-mail, a letter, or a recorded phone call. The important thing is that both sides know that the agreement is recorded somewhere and both sides have copies of it before the work is started.
By all means, if you have a good lawyer, draw up a contract. You might have more insight into this aspect of business then I do.
Should you pay upfront?
I know this is a big issue, but here’s what it boils down too. He who has the money, makes the rules. So don’t let your designer bully you around.
Keep your money as long as you can. Tell your designer that you’re uncomfortable paying them upfront until you at least see some rough versions of what they can do for you.
Be careful here, because designers consider this “working on spec”. Which basically means… giving you the work before you approve it and pay. It’s pretty common for designers to get ripped off by clients who do this so most professionals will not be happy with this at all. Some will even chew you out for suggesting it.
But as much as I hate to say it. As long as you haven’t payed-up, you have the power. So do as much as you possibly can to keep control of the money even if that means paying more or leaving a non-refundable deposit with the designer. It’s better than losing your entire budget over horror-show work.
So lets wrap things up…
I’ve given you almost everything I know about hiring designers. Whether they’re graphic designers or web designers. These tips will save you a load of headaches and cash if you use them.
But not all designers are created equal. You have certified pros, weekend hacks, and everything in between. And you’re not going to get a world-class designer for ten bucks an hour. It’s like trying to find a pro-bono lawyer. But that doesn’t mean you can’t find good design at decent prices.
And I hope this article helps you do just that.
To your success,
Jason The “Better Networker”
P.S. Oh, and if you’re interested in the forum post I was talking about earlier then here’s the link. Im not sure if there’s any new replies, but there was some really good tips there too. If anything I hope this article compliments them.
P.P.S. Have you ever been ripped off by a designer? If you have a specific story you would like to share then I’d love to hear it below.
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18 Comments
Mitcehll Dillman on November 23rd, 2009
Wow Jason,
Now that’s a load of information on a Monday morning. It all looks like good advice though…
One more suggestion:
I was recently introduced to an outfit based in the Philippines. You can contract them to do virtually anything and everything for your business for just pennies on the dollar.
You have the ability to interview and choose who you will work with as your new assistant and pay by the job or by the month.
I will soon be hiring a full-time personal assistant and expect to pay around $200 per month, which, given my scope of work, when you do the math, will come out to around $2 per hour. I may even work out some type of bonus program based on performance. They are open to many options.
If any of your readers are interested, get them in contact with me and I’ll pass on the information.
By the way, most of the contractors with this group were educated in America and are highly qualified and know all about IM.
Hey Jason, I want you to make it a great day! When YOU make it a great day you’ll have a great day…
Sincerely, your friend out-sourcer
Mitchell Dillman
Eco Warrior
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Adam Braithwaite on November 23rd, 2009
Thanks for the Good Advice Jason! We all appreciate your hard work and dedication to the Nerve center concept.
I tried setting up mine myself and was frustrated to say the least. I came across someone that has a Nerve center setup and can customize it to what I want. It is fully functional and extremely easy to use. Plus it comes with several different layouts for you to change with a few short clicks and 12 different Logos too.
You can see what yours could look like at http://www.adambraithwaite.com. It comes with a bunch of FREE Training on every subject for Internet Marketing.
If you go to: http://www.mlmmvp.com/rep/adamb.html and fill out the free form at the bottom you will have access to purchase your own Fully set-up nerve center. The total cost is $149, however at the time of filling out the form you have a one-time offer for $97 to buy the Nerve Center. I strongly advise everyone to go here and check it out. If you haven’t set one up or having problems setting it up to work properly, check this site out and get ready to have a nerve center in as little a five days or less. Mine was up and running in two days. Go to: http://www.mlmmvp.com/rep/adamb.html
Thank you,
Adam Braithwaite
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Jason Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:37 pm
@Adam,
Thanks for sharing these resources. I’m
glad you found a designer you could use.
So many people are struggling with this.
@Mitchell
Very cool. I think that’s a great idea. In fact,
I was listening to interview with Mike Dillard
and Aaron Rashkin that recommend personal
assistants too. You’re moving fast Mitchell!
@Steve
Oh boy o boy. Steve your advice is right
on the dollar. I know, it’s like anybody can
claim to be anything these days. Still, it’s
nice to know that there’s organizations that
are trying to regulate the quality of design too.
Unfortunately… they regulate prices too and those
aren’t cheap. Awesome advice.
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Steve Nyhof on November 23rd, 2009
Hi Jason,
You make a lot of good points. As far as the words professional or certified, or even “designer” – those are relative and even meaningless by my standards.
I have been on the Internet sense 1999. Now we have a bunch of young whipper-snappers that call themselves whatever they like and put an .inc on the end – if that.
Testimonials are very good. But more importantly, call the developer on the phone or skype and have a conversation. You will know in 30 seconds if they really know what they are selling.
The best advice Jason brings up is that you should learn a little about what you want before moving. However, this is not always so easy from someone who knows nothing about the Internet. Avid users assume too much of most new users and fail to give them the detailed advise they need to hear to make a proper decision.
Keep up the great work. I love your enthusiasm and spirit!
Steve
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Peter Montgomery on November 23rd, 2009
Hi Jase,
Right this second I am going through the 2nd Draft to send back to my designers.
I actually used about 4 different blogs that I like (Yours Included) and highlighted the things I liked about each one and how I wanted those things applied to mine and what colours etc…
What you say about being thorough is absolutely true.
It came back looking exactly as I imagined and even better, for where I didn’t specify, they took a bit of liberty and created a truly original design.
You can see where I got the Ideas from if you place them side by side yet it stands alone amongst them.
I’m using the same design and layout for my Network marketing Nerve Center and My copier service business website.
The MLM TF2 Nerve center model is a killer.
When Doing Market discovery in the copier world it stands out like dogs … You Know what.
It’s like they’ve never heard of Marketing or copywriting, which is great for me.
I’m fortunate enough that the owner of the design company is also one of my Business Mentors.
So I got a great price for the whole thing.
Here is a copy of the opening to the email I sent to them:
Hi Irena,
I love it.
It’s pretty much how I pictured it in my mind only better.
I feel your designers really took the best of all the designs I gave you and created a truly original looking design.
I love the page buttons, Home, Copywriting etc… and the way the date is displayed on each post.
I’m working out exactly what I want each page button to say to suit my content.
Here is a list of the changes I want made that you can take action on now and I’ll come back to you soon with the other stuff.
1# I’d like The connect with Peter on… etc… etc…
The other stuff is what I’m going through now so I’ll get back to work.
Thanks for this great blog you have.
Pete.
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Jason Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:39 pm
@Peter
That’s awesome. You know, a few people
have pointed out that they’ve found
designers that are doing great jobs… It’s
nice to hear. I mean, we tend to hear all
the horror stories first. Right?
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Rebecca Geiger on November 23rd, 2009
I think my favorite resource that has been left out when discussing color is:
http://www.colorblender.com. It gives you the direct corelation between RGB and hex… It is soo cool!
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Jason Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pm
@Rebecca
Yes! I can see how that would
come in handy. I know back when
I had to use HTML more I was always
bookmarking a similar page… I forget
what it was called. But very similar idea.
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Wayne Wu on November 23rd, 2009
Hey Jason,
You’ve over delivered again.
This philosphy can be used to hire other assistants, not just designers. Hiring the right people is so important for moving your business forward.
If you don’t have the money and you do have the time, it might be worthwhile becoming a “weekend warrior” and teach yourself how to do these things, so when it comes to hiring somebody you can understand what they’re doing and direct them at a deeper level.
I designed my nerve center entirely by myself and I am quite proud of how it turned out. And I only used resources and information that are freely available on the internet.
One of thoses is http://www.w3schools.com, which teaches you everything you need to know about HTML.
Also…
There are online communities that are very willing to help if you don’t have the skills.
I am using the Thesis theme for my Nerve Center – it’s possibly one of the best customizable themes out there.
And the best thing about Thesis is the support you get when you pay the one-time purchase price of $87.
There’s a forum where there are expert people who can help you, even with the most demanding design/coding questions.
That’s my 2 cents. It maybe very worthwhile learning how to this yourself, if you have the time.
All the best,
Wayne
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Jason Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:11 pm
Hey Wayne,
Nice to see you here. I was just reading an
article of yours on Better Networker a few days
back. Loved it.
I actually love the Thesis template. It’s the
same one used by a lot of professional
bloggers and I like the crazy amount of options
the new version has… extra design options too.
I think, if anyone has the patience or the
time it’s a no-brainer. But that’s a big
issue these days… not enough time!
You also shared the perfect link for anyone
into coding. Very cool.
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Julie P on November 23rd, 2009
I teach small business owners how to put their own website (Wordpress blog) up – they can do it themselves – or I arrange it to be done for them for around $500.
But if you have a good step-by-step guide and a weekend – and if you can cut and paste – you can do it yourself to save heaps of money. It then boils down to domain name/hosting/template – so it will cost less than $200.
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Jason Reply:
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:13 pm
Hey Julie,
You know these days that’s in demand.
I think that anyone who has the time
would learn a lot from setting up their
own nerve center with Wordpress. Not
to mention… save a load of money.
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Jenni Ryan on December 10th, 2009
Jason
I had my blog designed for $100 through an outsourcing website and the designer did a fantastic job, so much so, that I have had a ton of people request his details and I have referred him plenty of work.
I did know exactly what I wanted, but , I dont agree that you cant get it done for less than $200, you just have to know where to look.
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Jason Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 9:14 am
Hey Jenni,
I’m glad that you found a designer
on a budget. I think you found a gem.
So I totally understand if you disagree
with this article.
Still, I cringe at the piles of people who
spend their money… only to re-spend
it again on a new designer. It’s
something that happens more often then
even I imagined.
I love hearing success stories. Thanks
Jenni.
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Jenni Ryan on December 10th, 2009
Jason
You are absolutely right. I have seen people spend 10 x as much as me and get an average job. What I think is important is that you can look at the designers previous work – this will give you an idea of how creative they are and then if you interview them and as long as they are willing to do exactly what you ask – you will get what you want. Well, that was my experience anyway.
Jenni
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Jason Reply:
December 10th, 2009 at 6:17 pm
Hey Jenni,
Yeah. My jaw dropped when you
said told me how little you paid.
I think your comment here will
help other network marketers
make informed decisions too.
I know this post sparked a bit
of controversy a while back…
as some tend to do… but it was
all in good faith.
It’s nice to see the conversation
continue… because that’s really what
it’s all about. I might even do an updated
post in the future… keeping everybody’s
suggestion and comment in mind.
I hope you have a great evening Jenni.
I’m off to get some grub.
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Wow. This is a long one. You might want to print it out if you’re hiring a designer anytime soon. Hope this helps.
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